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Odds & Ends
“In 1955/56 there was a man with an 8 mm movie camera at quite a number of the 6-man football games. It would be a miracle if any of these old movies still survive but I was just wondering. Someone told me that they thought that the man was Mr. Rube Wilson and that he lived in Cliffside. Since you and your network of contacts are the source of all info related to Cliffside, I just thought that I would ask if anyone remembers these movies, or if perhaps someone has some of these old films.
“I am having fun with your most recent update—what the heck is a 'four-man bus window hanging' competition? How was it scored? How in the world could Cliffside beat Tri-High by 13 to 5? I doubt the entire story.
“I have been interested in exactly what happened in Rutherford County during the Labor Day 1934 'General Strike.' I actually went to the Isothermal Library and made copies of the Forest City Courier articles from Thursday Sept. 6, 1934, Thursday Sept. 13, 1934, and Thursday Sept. 20, 1934. The newspaper does not tell a lot. I have no idea if this is because the 'mill owners' controlled the news media at that time or not. Actually in the 9/6/34 issue actually had about the same length article about 'the coming opening of the Colfax Free Fair' as it had about the strike activities.
“The thing that I thought that you might be able to help me find info about is the fact that in this 9/13 article it says that the 'Henrietta mill' was a 'union mill.' I had never heard about Henrietta having a union. Do you suppose that anyone who pays attention to www.remembercliffside.com might have some personal knowledge about the 'union' at Henrietta? Anything that anyone remembers would be new info for me. Thanks.”—Leon Neal
Raleigh, NC
“Good job this month. Myrtle Mashburn [in her interview] was talking about Charlie Haynes having the elevator put in at the old church. I would go and watch G.C. Fisher and another man dig the hole for the elevator shaft, they did it by hand. Anyway the story went that Mr. Haynes paid $3,500 to have the elevator put it. At the time that was like $50,000 to me. (I think I remember this: Fish was paid $20 to help dig the hole.)”
—Sam Davis
“Thank you again, Reno. I look forward to the update every month. Yes, it is that time of year again, the happiest season of all. At this time of year, my mind always goes back to the 1950's and very early 60's when I was growing up in Cliffside, on River Street and Pine Street.
“I, like all people from Cliffside and around the world, probably think back to Christmases long, long ago when we were kids and and looking forward to Christmas morning, waking up long before our parents, looking at the Christmas tree with presents underneath and wondering what treasures were there. Like most families in Cliffside, we didn't have much (most ordinary mill workers didn't), but we really enjoyed and treasured what we did have, especially our families and friends and our loving community that was Cliffside. My eyes never fail to tear up when I remember those days. My mind conjures up Christmas trees with bubble lights, Daisy BB rifles, gun and holster sets, icicles hanging from the roof outside, Christmas dinner and playing with all the neighbor kids, sharing our presents. For my brothers and me, it was usually the kids of T.J. McDaniel who lived in the apartment building on River Street.
“Now, I look forward to our children, and sometimes other relatives, coming to our home from Las Vegas to visit and spending Christmas with them. It is a great feeling watching them open presents and enjoying Christmas, even though they aren't kids anymore. Our priorities surely change as we get older. But the joy of Christmas never gets old. Finally, we should never forget the real meaning of Christmas, the birthday of our lord and saviour, Jesus Christ. Along those lines, I also remember being involved in our annual Christmas play at Mt. Pleasant Baptist Church and our beloved minister, Jim Bishop.
“Here's wishing all a very Merry Christmas and Happy and Healthy New Year. May God bless you.”
—James Price
“I am a decendant of Jesse Lee Frye and Valoree Selena Sarratt. I was looking at your information on the Sarratt family and you do not have a complete listing of Jesse and Valoree's children. They had seven children: five girls and two boys. The girls were Phyrnia Frye Moore, Margie Frye Price, Viola Frye Humphries, Carrie Frye Simpson and Lois Frye Moore. The boys were Samuel and Joe.
“Margie, Carrie, and Viola lived in Cliffside until their deaths. Lois is still alive and living in Ellenboro and Phyrnia, who was my grandmother and the eldest of Jesse and Valoree's children, lived in Mooresboro until her death in the late 1990's. I hope this information will help you. If you need additional information please fill free to contact me.
“Sincerely,”—Angelia Moore Cushman
“Just found your website - wonderful work! I especially enjoyed the slideshow. A couple of questions:
1) What is the name of the river and was the dam used for power generation?
2) It was a Cone plant? and is it now closed?
3) The nearby town of Caroleen - on same river? Power generation? Now closed?
“Thanks so much for your help - wonderful webpage.”
—David Youngblood
Fort Mill, SC“Re the article 'A TOWN CALLED AVONDALE, A MILL NAMED HAYNES:'
“Here is a listing of the Overseers at the Haynes plant while Mr. Beard was superintendent during WW2.
Card Room: Leonard Wallace
Spinning Room: Baxter Givens
Weave Room: Frank Cantrell, Abe Rhymer
Cloth Room: Bill Davidson (later became superintendent)
Outside: Bob Jenkins“This is the way I remember it as I grew up in Avondale.”
—James Givens
“I was doing an internet search for my cousin on one of our ancestors, Amos Owens, and found your article. He is indeed the man in Wall's Cemetery. He was my great-great-great grandpa and was indeed a moonshiner, and, in the words of my grandpa, "the parties on Cherry Mountain were something to behold." He was in the Civil War, too.
“Thanks.”
—Joanna Street
“You have done a wonderful job with this website! I want to mention to you that my mother, a native of Cliffside, passed away on June 3rd. She is Jerleen Gosey West. She had battled cancer for the past four years.
“As I was looking at your site today, I thought of all the things she told me about Cliffside. One thing that sticks in my mind is how "no one ever bad came from Cliffside." It's nice to remember such great things not only about her but how she felt about her hometown.
”Sincerely,”
—Jackie West Greene
“My name is Steve Harrill. I grew up in Rutherford Co. and graduated from Chase High in 1971. I presently live I Salisbury, NC and teach music at Pfeiffer University. I have visited your website many times and enjoy it very much. I am descended from a long line of Harrill's. William H. Harrill, better known as "Talking Billy," was my Great, Great, grandfather and sold the land to Henrietta Mills to build the Caroleen Plant.
“I have extensive documentation from around 1865 of many transactions in which members of my family were involved, including two documents from S.B. Tanner which I have attached as well as some old family pictures. Please feel free to use them on your site.
“Thanks,”
—Steve Harrill
“I travel from Shelby through Cliffside every Sunday and Wednesday to Church at Calvary Baptist on Ferry Rd. I have traveled through Cliffside for the last 18 years. I stumbled on your website by accident a few weeks back and during my spare time I search its pages. I am impressed but find myself sad as I view what use to be. I have heard my family over the years talk about traveling to Cliffside to see family. My family members are made up of Bridges and Beason’s. I grew up in the mill village of Ester Mill in Shelby, and looking at your website I find myself thinking about happy moments in my childhood that I haven’t thought about in years. I am glad that your website exists and even though I never saw Cliffside the way it was, your website has left happy memories in my mind as though I was a part of how it use to be. Thank You!”
—Allen Emory
Manager of Safety & Health
Carolina Cotton Work, Inc
Gaffney SC
“Your efforts are certainly to be commended.
“I attempted to compare the maps with present day maps. Much of the area is can be recognized but it's sad in a way to see that probably a majority of the houses are gone. I was thinking how this certainly could have been made into a movie.
“My wife and I travel a lot in a motor home and in doing so, I enjoy picking up local newspapers and reading about people that I don't even know! A local newspaper gives to some extent a barometer reading of the neighborhood, whether we're in TN or PA or wherever! People are amazing to me, especially in view of the fact that God has NEVER created two alike!
“I searched a few of the last names but I don't seem to find any link (not to be used as a computer term here) with any of my acquaintances”
—Perry McGuire
Catawba, SC“I am a descendant of Jesse Lee Frye and Valoree Selena Sarratt. I was looking at your information on the Sarratt family and you do not have a complete listing of Jesse and Valoree's children. They had seven children 5 girls and 2 boys. They were Phyrnia Frye Moore, Margie Frye Price, Viola Frye Humphries, Carrie Frye Simpson, Samual Frye. Lois Frye Moore, and Joe Frye.
“Margie, Carrie, and Viola lived in Cliffside until their deaths. Lois is still alive and living in Ellenboro and Phyrnia, who was my grandmother and the eldest of Jesse and Valoree's children lived in Mooresboro until her death in the late 1990's.
“I hope this information will help you.”
—Angela Cushman
“In 1955/56 there was a man with an 8-mm movie camera at quite a number of the 6-man football games. It would be a miracle if any of these old movies still survive but I was just wondering. Someone told me that they thought that the man was Mr. Rube Wilson and that he lived in Cliffside. Since you - and your network of contacts - are the source of all info related to Cliffside, I just thought that I would ask if anyone remembers these movies - or if perhaps someone has some of these old films.”
—Leon Neal
Raleigh, NC“This website is wonderful.
“My mother was born and raised in Cliffside. She is the sister of Ginny Anne Reid.
“In 1962, the summer I was born, my mother hit a child on a bicycle. It was very serious. Aunt Ginny Ann said it actually happened in the Fairview community near the Goodes Grove Baptist Church. Would you have happened to see anything on this during your research for this website?
“I know the young boy did recover after time in Charlotte hospital. Someone told my mother he grew up to be a teacher. (I think his name was Curt Simmons) She was also told he had walked with a limp as a result of the accident. My mother never forgot that boy and when we would come across a child on a bicycle even 35 years later she would get really upset and have to pull the car over.
“I would like for him know my mother thought of him and prayed for him often throughout her life.”
—Cathy Webb
“I'm a grand-daughter of George W Hill and Annie Sue Dedmond Hill. My parents are George O. Stacey and Emily Faye Hill Stacey. Mother died in 2003. My sister, Marie, and I have a bunch of old pictures that we'd like to share. I have most of them scanned in and can send them by email, or, I can make a CD and send that. I also have the whole collection of the Super 8 movies that my aunt, Margie Bostic, made during the 50's and 60's. Currently, they're in VHS format, but I'd planned to have them converted to CD. Now's a good time to do that. The films are all of the Hill family.
“I'm tellin' you .... finding your website has really meant a lot to me. I'm 54 years old, but the memories of Cliffside, and my grandparents' house on Dedmond Road, are as fresh as though it was just yesterday.
“I've printed out the Membership form, and I'm sending that in too.”
—Leela Goldberg
Houston, TX“I am enjoying your web page regarding RR Haynes and am curious as to when the Cliffside mill operations finally closed.”
—Mark Johnson
Rutherfordton, NC“I have been reading this for four days now, visiting all the links. I just can't get enough of Cliffside. I really look forward to the 1st of every month for the updates.I would love to see some pictures of the houses on River Street. I lived in two of them. My last Cliffside home was 11 Pine Street, directly behind the drug store next to the railroad tracks. Great memories.”
—James Price
Moreno Valley, California“Thanks for publishing the photo of the service station half-way up Harrill Town Hill. This was the building that when most of us can remember became the Lutz-Yelton Oil Company building - and the Crown Service Station was built next door (Larry Quinn ran that station until a few years ago - it is 'abandoned'.) I knew Christo Deal really well - he sang in the Caroleen Baptist Church choir with me for a number of years. Also I knew C. B. and Roy Smith. Also Jake Price - and all his daughters.
“It is interesting that the gasoline pumps in front of the service station are 'mixed'. That is, two of these are the old 'manual' type gasoline pumps and one is the 'modern' electric pump type. The old 'manual' pumps had a long handle which you used to pump the gasoline up into the clear glass bowl on top of the pump - you 'sort of' guess how many gallons you had in the bowl by the markings on the side of the bowl and then you let the gasoline drain down into your car's gas tank by gravity (sort of interesting since we now insist on gasoline measured digitally to the .00 gallons - shows what $3 a gallon leads to).
“Interesting also that you mention 'Windy's Grill' across the highway from the Lutz-Yelton Oil Company building. In the 40's Windy's was not there. Windy started out his 'hot dog stand' in the 40s in a little building right across the street from Lowe's Furniture Store - down at the bottom of Harrill Town Hill. This little building could not have been much larger than 15' X 30' and its original use was storage for the furniture store. Windy sort of 'refurbished' this little building, put in a grill, had a counter and about 7 or 8 counter stools, and began selling hot dogs. His hot dogs were excellent, chilli was great, and he began building his business - a lot of it on my quick trips across the highway from the front door of Lowe's Furniture Store to 'get a hot dog and an RC'. It must have been about 1950 before Windy built the brick building half-way up Harrill Town Hill on the 'flat' area.
“Again, thanks for the memories.”—Leon Neal
Raleigh, NC“I am new to the area (Mooresboro) and I am living on Circle J Farm, Cliffside Rd.
“Here's my question: I'm trying to find out about the OLD Mount Pleasant Church & School Road. The remnants of the old stone wall & dirt road run across the farm. I have looked everywhere to no avail for info on this.
“If you can help me, Thank You! If not, well, I've already put 'Remember Cliffside' on my favorites list!”—Kristi Lloyd
“I grew up in Gaston County near Mt. Holly, and your expressions brought back some great memories. I wanted to offer a few for your collection.
Hit a lick at a snake: meaning lazy, as in “He’s too tired to even hit a lick at a snake.” used-ta-could: “I used-ta-could do that when I was younger.” pert near: “The pound cake is pert near gone.” ice box: “Put the milk in the ice box.” hose pipe: “Wash the car with the hose pipe.” ain’t worth shootin’/killin’: “I’m so lazy I ain’t worth shootin/killin.” three sheets to the wind: “He’s so drunk, he’s three sheets to the wind.” pot likker: “the stewed cabbage made some good pot likker (broth).” air in a jug: “He’s so worthless, I wouldn’t give him air if he was in a jug.” “I’d like to buy for what he’s worth and sell him for what he thinks he’s worth.” “mean as a snake” —Rev. Paul Craig
University City United Methodist Church
3835 West W.T. Harris Boulevard
Charlotte, North Carolina 28269“I just wanted to drop you a note to thank you for this website. I found it when doing web searches using my family members names. I never dreamed that i would find so much information about my own family.
“So far, I've seen pictures of my aunt and uncle (Horton and Jerene Landreth), my grandfather (Marchel Bailey), and my great grandfather, Arthur Allen.
“Also, the historical pictures of Cliffside are amazing. I'm 30 now and i can still remember some of the buildings in the pictures from my childhood visits to Cliffside. Sadly, many of those places no longer exist. That's why i think that your website is so important.
“Thank you so much for all you do.
“Keep up the good work.”
—Anthony J. Radford
Salisbury, North Carolina
“I was doing an internet search for my cousin on one of our ancestors, Amos Owens, and found your article. He is indeed the man in the Wall's Cemetery. He was my great-great-great grandpa and was indeed a moonshiner and in the words of my grandpa 'the parties on Cherry Mountain were something to behold.' He was in the Civil War, too.
“Thanks.”
—Joanna Street
“I am so excited!!!!! I am researching my family history and I found a picture on your website that I think is my great grandfather, Ralph Blanton (page 28 of 28). Please let me know how I can get a copy of this photo! Any information you have on this family would be appreciated. Thank you in advance.”
—Tammy Blanton Childress
“Sally Tate is my great aunt, my grandmother's sister. She is buried in my grandmother's lot at Cliffside Cemetery. My grandmother is Jenny Bailey, married to John H. Bailey. Sally is buried with her sister Jenny, brother Robert Morris, brother-on-law John, and Vernon Bailey (infant son of John and Jenny).
“My parents are Joe L. and Eloise Bailey Greene.”
—Deborah Greene
“The website looks great.
“My name is Charles Nodine, Jr. I work for Duke Power Company. I once did some training at the Cliffside plant back in 1980.
“My parents are Charles and Lib Nodine. They live over on Ramsey Rd. off Mt. Pleasant Ch Rd. Dad was the maintenance supervisor at Cone starting about 1980. He could answer many questions you might have about the mill since then.
“My grandparents were Thomas and Edna Nodine of Mooresboro and Howard and Ethel McBee of Cliffside
“Dad was in the Navy when I was very young. Mom and I lived with Papa and MaMa over on Mt. Pleasant Church Rd. It was a dirt road then.
“One of my earliest childhood memories is Mom and my Aunt Betty taking me to the drugstore in Cliffside to get a Sundrop. I luuuuvved Sundrop. I was probably 4 or 5 years old (about 1964-65). Seems like the movie theater was still there too. They were just girls and were known to drive a little fast down Cliffside highway, once meeting a truck on a narrow bridge and shaving the door handles off of a Plymouth.
“My Uncle Junior McBee lived in one of the mill houses over on the river on Cliffside highway. I remember playing with my cousins UNDER the house because it was elevated off the ground on river stone foundation pillars. The house had electricity, but I don't remember wall outlets, just overhead lights that had string switches. One of the sockets had a screw-in outlet. They didn't have telephone. Junior worked at Cone all of his life. He lives in Henrietta now.
“We moved away and didn't return until 1979. The town was pretty much gone by then.”
—Chuck
“Your article in the latest CHS Newsletter concerning dogs in Cliffside brings back a memory of about 1934.
“Around age 8 we were living on Hazelhurst Farm west of Cliffside, near Ferry, where I had one or two dogs that I loved very much. On moving to Cliffside at age 9 or so, since I couldn't have a dog, daddy bought me a goat (with or without Uncle Charlie's permission ?).
“We kept it staked in the back yard, and I was told not to take it out of the yard. However, one day I took it without permission, rope around neck, down Main Street toward town. Somewhere before I got to the Memorial Building it jerked the rope out of my hand and ran in front of a car and was killed.
“Since it was too heavy for me to carry, I drug it back home on the sidewalk with the rope. I don't recall where daddy buried it, but I do recall that I couldn't sit down comfortably for a day or two after a good whipping. I had to be content with a rabbit or two after that.”—Grover Haynes, Jr.
“Reading the question from Janet Kavadellas that was answered by Janice Swing brought questions to my mind about how many teachers were in each grade. I like Janice was in elementary school there. In 1953, I started 1st grade with Ms. Lovelace, 2nd with Ms. Mabry, 3rd with Ms. Wells, 4th with Ms. Padgett, and 5th with Ms. Christy. The interesting thing is I don't remember any other teachers in those grades. I'm curious to know how many teachers there were in each grade level.”
—Greta Harmon Loeber
Norcross, GA
“I noticed in the High Shoals Baptist article that it says the church may well be the oldest church in the county that still exists. There are more than 25 churches in Rutherford County older than High Shoals that still have active congregations, and St. John's Historic Church in Rutherfordton is documented as the oldest standing church structure in the county (1847)
“Just a thought!”
—Robin S. Lattimore
President,
Rutherford County Historical Society
Rutherfordton“I just wanted to say how interesting your site is, and how much I enjoyed looking at all the pictures and reading about the history of Cliffside! My company is currently doing an upgrade to the Cliffside Steam Station. I am not on that project, but after visiting your site, I want to be!!
“Many thanks should go to the people of Cliffside who have worked to keep the history alive! I hope to be able to visit in the near future.”
—Stacey A. Coffey, P.E.
CSA Engineer
Shaw Stone & Webster
128 South Tryon, Suite 400
Charlotte, NC 28202
“In regard to your article " A Town Called Avondale, A Mill Named Haynes."
“Here is a listing of the Overseers at the Haynes plant while Mr. Beard was superintendent during WW2.Card Room: Leonard Wallace
Spinning Room: Baxter Givens
Weave Room: Frank Cantrell, Abe Rhymer
Cloth Room: Bill Davidson (later became superintendent)
Outside: Bob Jenkins
“This is the way I remember it as I grew up in Avondale.”
—James Givens
“Good job…great website.”
—Gerald M. Bailey
Commissioner
Florida Department of Law Enforcement
Post Office Box 1489
Tallahassee, FL 32302“Greetings:
“I am Curtis Smith, great grandson of Eli Wilkins. I Thank you for posting the pictures. He worked on Engine 110 for many years. He loved his job and the people he worked with. He passed on Aug 31, 1989.
“Thanks again.”
—Curtis Smith
“The free board on the dam was replaced in 1994 by Cunningham, Waters. I was the supervisor of the machine shop at that time. Also the interior of the water turbines was reworked along with the electrical. The Cone machine shop did most of this work with some outside help. The main gate to the dam and the generator inlet gates were replaced by Cone machine shop personnel. Riprap stone was placed upon a liner fabric out along the bank of the machine shop yard, to stop erosion and leakage into the plant basement. ”
—Charles W. Nodine
1979 to 2000 Cone Mills
Cliffside, Haynes, Florence plants“I have enjoyed the Historical Society reports very much. I was especially interested in the G. K. Moore article. After Mrs. Moore moved to keep the Teacherage, the Thompson family (Sidney Locke and Annie [Clemmer] Thompson) moved into the Moore house. I married Sam,their son, in 1937 and we lived in the house until after the war. Before we left Cliffside it had been divided into four apartments. Sam and I had the lower five rooms, and his brother Francis (Skip) lived in the back two rooms. Upstairs Francis and Etheleen [Roberson] Fowler lived in the front appartment, and Otto and Lutelle Hames [Matheny] lived in the back. Oh, one time Dorus and Mary Huss lived upstairs. What great memories of long ago. (Sam died in 1995 and is buried in Cliffside Cemetery.)”
— Shirley Crawford Thompson
“The article and map of Riddle Creek (although, I must admit, I never knew or thought about the name of it) brought back many memories. Many summer days would find us walking by the pig pens, past Dick Scruggs dog lot and heading to 'Big Rock' for a swim. As mentioned in the article, we often tried to make a dam across the creek, especially where the old railroad track trestle had been cut down, which lasted only for a short while. Of course, 'Ghost Cut' was located a short distance from there where Glenn Ledford and Glenn Jackson use to scare us small kids with ghost stories and dare us to campout overnight there. Many pleasant memories there!”
—Jim Ingram
“This is an unbelievably great website. Wonderful information and very well put together. I heard about on the documentary about textile mills. You have put together a treasure. It has wonderful history and information, compiled with wisdom, humor and love. Very enjoyable.”
—Linda Campbell
“What a great surprise I had when my cousin sent me this web site. I have been enjoying it for a couple of days and decided to write a note to you. My name is Virginia Blanton Wirtanen (better known in the olden days as "Ginny Mae Blanton.' I attended school at Cliffside from fifth grade through high school, graduating in 1942. I lived with my Grandmother who ran the teacherage (Cliffside Inn). She and my grandfather, George Kelly Moore, were one of the first families to live in Cliffside. My grandfather was the contractor who built most of the original buildings in Cliffside including the Memorial Building, the mill, the school house (which I assume is still in operation—although I am sad to see the Memorial Bldg. and the mill, along with almost all of the original town, torn down.)
“My grandfather and Raleigh Haynes were visionaries as the town of Cliffside can attest, surviving 100 years until progress caught up with it. My grandfather was building a home for Dr. Lovelace in Forest City when he was killed by a drunk driver on his way home from Forest City. There may not be anyone left who would remember this era, but then, that is the purpose of this web site, huh? My aunt was Virginia Moore (Miss Virginia) and was a fixture at the Dry Goods Store as it was called then. One of my uncles was Robert (Tubby) Hawkins, another was Hickey Wortman (I notice that his son,Danny, is listed), These are just a few of the faces and names that have resurfaced.
“Thanks for the memories, you have done a wonderful job.”
—Virginia Blanton Wirtanen
“Your 'Remember Cliffside' is a most delightful site! I have enjoyed it, having stumbled on it while surfing the web for information on the Golden Age of Radio (of all things!).
“While I am an import to the Rutherford County area, Cliffside was firmly planted in my memory as a child. I grew up in South Carolina, near Blacksburg, at the foot of old Whitaker Mountain. In the afternoons, we would go up to the top of "the big field" where we could see the western sky. As the sun was setting, we'd see a column of smoke (this was in the 1940s) rising above the horizon. That was the old Cliffside Steam Plant. We knew little else about this delightful place, but that was enough to spark curiosity.
“Later my uncle was the manager of the old Cliffside theater. (I failed to find a picture of the showplace, but hope you can locate one.) His name was Hal Justice; he lived most of his life in Rutherfordton. There are other associations with Cliffside, such as Earl Owensby (the movie maker) having grown up there. (I didn't find him, but have only found the site this morning; probably he is there, maybe involved with the Historical Society!)“Again, thanks for a delightful excursion into the past; I'll be coming back for more!”
—Wylie W. Fulton
“The website is 'looking good' — although it is really getting big and I spend way too much time trying to read it all.
“I was wondering - since you have access to so many old photos - if you have ever run across a photo of an old woodsaw truck. You know - the truck that they brought to your house when your Dad bought a load of slabs to cut the slabs into short pieces that fit into the fire place or the woodstove. I have looked all over for such a photo and I have not found one. I know that some of the potters down around Seagrove still use slabs to fire their kilns - and maybe a lot more will be doing so now because of the high cost of propane. A fellow down there had a woodsaw truck up until about 10 years ago. He used a wood boiler located in an outbuilding to provide heat for his house. The fellow died and his son disassembled the woodsaw and sold the truck.
“Anyway - if you run across such a photo - I would love to have an electronic version of it.”
—Leon Neal
“I was just re-reading the story of Henrietta. Every time I read this I remember a picture that my dad had for years until he loaned it to someone, which he did a lot and never got them back. The picture was of Thomas Edison and John Walker Haynes on the front porch of the Haynes Hotel, owned and operated by JWH. Edison had just spent the night with JWH and was leaving the next morning. I was always told that he came promoting his new light bulb and would take you to ride in his car for 5 cents, which he used to help pay the expense of his touring. The Haynes Hotel (see painting) was the building that later was to be the funeral home of Blackwell-Nickels, the first house on the NW corner across from the present Holland Furniture building.”
—Jim Haynes
“I live in California and did not get to attend Cliffside Day 2005 or 2006. I usually get back home during the summer after my son gets out of school for the summer. Perhaps Cliffside Day could be moved to the summer. I enjoyed the gallery of photos from 2005. Marilyn Moore Kerr and I were elected king and queen for the Halloween celebration at Cliffside school in 1953-third grade. That was the only year Marilyn attended Cliffside school. Marilyn and I exchange e-mails occasionally. She was my third grade sweetheart. You may remember that the Halloween celebration was held in the school gym and auditorium. There were many game booths in the gym. In the auditorium, there were events like the cakewalk and the crowning of the king and queen. I would love to see a photo of that.
“There was one other memorable event that third grade year. Marilyn still remembers it. Toward the end of the school day, she got her leg caught between the desk seat and the back of the seat. She could not get it out. I stayed with her while the janitor got a hacksaw and sawed through the metal frame to release her leg. Marilyn says she has told that story many times.”
—James Price
Editor's note: After receiving his enlightening details about a recent Photo of the Month, we asked Richard Mauney for some personal information:
“I was born in Asheville in June 1950, the son of a Baptist minister. When I was 1 1/2 years old, we moved to Rutherford county. We lived at Rabbit Town, next door to Jim Doggetts shoe store, across from Dr. Lovelace. My father pastored Haynes Memorial Baptist Church until Jan. 1963. I loved it there and didn't want to leave. I rode a bike all over the place, Henrietta, Cliffside, Avondale, etc. We moved to Mooresville N. C. and I am still here. Married for 31 years, two daughters, one grandson. I am an engineering lab tech for Ingersoll Rand, Davidson NC, [and my] wife works for Davidson College. I've had a good life but my fondest memories are when I was a carefree kid living in a much simpler time at Henrietta. Thanks for asking and thanks for a great website.”
“Often when I read the articles on 'Remember Cliffside,' I shed a tear or two. I never realized how fortunate I was to have grown up in such a unique town. I have more fond memories than I can count.
“Especially this time I did cry to learn of the death of Ruth Camp. She and I were such good friends, and I had no idea that she had passed. As children we played together. Her mother, Mamie was so faithful to my grandmother, even after her boarding house closed. And although Ruth worked, she also was very close to me. I loved her so, and every time I have returned (usually for a funeral of a family member) she has come to see me and we just have reminisced, and had a wonderful time together. I do cherish her memoirs and her picture.
“I wish I knew more about Granny’s [Mrs. Lander Pruette's] boarding house, but it was before my time. If you get any information on that please let me know. It was right there where we used to sit on the porch. I have heard that the food was delicious. Actually there was a gentleman here in Lancaster [S.C.] who had eaten there, and talked about how good it was.”
— Virginia Padgett Biggerstaff
“Do you have any photos of the Jackson family? My grandpa, Fletcher Andrew, wife Gussie Bridges Jackson, worked in the mill at Cliffside several times. He worked as a share cropper in the summer and went to the mill in the fall. His brothers were Bynum, Gus and Roy. Gus was a supervisor at the Florence Plant, and dropped dead as he was leaving the plant.
“His sisters were Myrtle, who married a Poole. One married—lived in Sunshine, can't remember her name. His [Fletcher's] mother and dad were Bob Jackson and Julie Lookadoo Jackson. Grandpa, as I said, farmed in the summertime, and worked in the mill in the winter. He married Bill Bridges' Daughter (Gussie Salome Bridges) from Sunshine. His name was William Druery Beauregard Bridges and they called him Bill. ('Horse Trading' Bill—not 'Cussin' Bill' but 'Horse Trading' Bill.) Cussin' Bill was Cricket Rollins' grandpa, I think. If [anyone] can tell me anything else about grandpa's Family or have any pictures I would like to find that out.”
— Betty Dalton Padgett
“I was just looking at your site and saw the goat man article... I saw him on a Saturday at the top of Central High Hill just about exactly where the stop light is now to go to Hardees and the land fill. It was also the first day I saw the '47 Studebaker in the show room in Spindale. Don't ask me how I remember that but I clearly do.. I guess I was 11 years old...
“That was the first year that the car had a sloped trunk very similar to the shape of the hood and everyone said you couldn't tell if they were going or coming.
“Incidentally you did a terrific job on the web site.”
— Jim Hoyle
“Thank you so much for the Remember Cliffside website. I really enjoy the old photos and articles. Sometimes I enjoy them so much and get so wrapped up in looking at them that I lose track of time and neglect my 'chores.'
“I worked as an electrician at the old mill for about 13 years from 1990 until 2003 when I was laid off. I've never experienced anything else like it. That old building had to be one of the most unique places on earth. As an electrician I had the privilege of working on electrical equipment that ranged from early 1900's up to the cutting edge equipment the mill used at the time it shut down. But one of the fondest memories I have of the mill was the old Power House or Generator Room as us shop guys referred to it. Many times on the night shift I had to adjust the old generators to keep the lights on in the mill—especially after a lightening storm had knocked the power off. That generator room could be a scary place when the water started sloshing through as the pond got low. But I still think it was a marvel and a pleasure to have been able to have learned how to control those big units.
“If I get real inspired I'll try to put something together about my time at Cliffside. I'm not much of a writer though. If you could get some of those old shop boys like Lefty Brooks, Joe Thrift or Eddie Hill who were in the shop for 20 or 30 years to talk to you, they can tell some real stories.
“I've heard a few.”
— Harold Arrowood
"Just wanted to send you a note about your web site. I have really enjoyed looking at the old pictures and reading the articles. I have always lived in Harris and have been told many times about all the houses and stores that were in Cliffside. All of that stuff was going when I was born in '73.
“It was also very interesting about the insert you put in about a small history of Henrietta and Caroleen. In the past few years I have read a lot of stuff on the history of Rutherford County. But Remember Cliffside is one of the best web sites I have seen. Someone should do one like it on Forest City.
“I have read just about everything and looked at every picture on your web site. I even went to Hicks Grove Church to see Eva Haynes grave site after reading the story on here. It was like history coming alive.
“I could only find one place where Harris Station was mentioned and that was when they brought R.R. Haynes from Florida after his death by way of the railroad. I would love to see some pictures of Harris, the train depot, the stores, cotton gin, etc.. Someone has to have them somewhere. I have seen a few pictures of the old Harris school and, being as big a school that it was, some one should have some old pictures or articles of Harris. I even heard of stories where the Spicer brothers switched the train to the kick off spur and derailed the train..
“But anyway, I have taken enough of your time. Keep up the good work.”
— Brian C. Oursler
Good suggestion. On November 30, we're inaugurating a new "room" on Remember Cliffside called “The County” in which we'll post all the history we can find (or you can provide) about Rutherford County and every city, town and hamlet within it.
“Congratulations on your excellent historical society website. I just happened to find you on the publication date of your new book, Cliffside: Portrait of a Carolina Mill Town. I will refer this site to our own local historical society here in Vista, California (a suburb of San Diego). Yes, we really do have history buffs in Southern California, though some of us can only go back to the winter of 1948.
“I love the story about you and Earl Owensby operating a defacto theatre enterprise. Back in '82 my father Chris Condon and Earl formed a business arrangement to release several 3D movies that had been filmed at the EO Studios in Shelby. I was looking for information about the Earl Owensby theatre when the Cliffside website poped up. Two projectors is the way that 3D movies got shown back in the 1940's what a coincidence! I wonder if 3D has been seen at the EO theatre lately, (it only takes one projector these days.)”
Best wishes,
Victoria Condon-Silliphant
Vice President & Producer
StereoVision 3D Int'l.
Stereo Vision Systems mfg.“I am Buzz Biggerstaff’s sister-in-law. His wife, Beth, is my sister. I have gone to the Remember Cliffside website several times to see pictures that Buzz told me about. The one I loved the most was the aerial view of Duke Village in 1952. I had it blown up and it hangs in my office. I just recently started really reading a lot of the things on the website. I just want to congratulate you for all the work you have put into this endeavor. I have had so much fun the last couple of days, learning about the history of my home town. I especially enjoyed the memories by Mrs. Cargill and Mike Fisher.
“There is one thing that I haven’t run across so far, and that’s much mention about Duke Village. Although we didn’t live in the town of Cliffside, it was our town, and I think you would get a lot of response from those of us who lived there if you had a section specifically for Duke Village memories. Is that a possibility?”
— Harriet Tarleton Miller
Good point. We'll try harder to acquire more information and photos of the Duke Power plant and village and include them on the site.
“My Dad worked at the mill for at least 27 years and died while still employed there back in 1979. He and my Mom also lived in one of the mill houses. I personally remember the early morning that my Mom would drop me off at the gate house for me to wait for my Dad to get off third Shift. And I remember the day they took the wrecking ball and tore down the auditorium. My Dad would take me to the park over there sometimes to play and to watch the little league baseball team (the Dodgers) practice. Winkie Pearson was the coach, if I remember correctly.
“I was able to make it to Cliffside Day and saw my Godmother (Frances Houser). I haven't seen her in years. I was saddened to see that Cliffside has been so neglected since my childhood. I did make a trip over to the park and to my surprise I found that three of my most favorite playground pieces were still there and being used to this day. To be honest....I teared up just from that alone. I'm also trying to find out more about my Dad and maybe some photos that someone may have to share with me. His name was Max Beatty. I was 11 when he died and never got the chance to really know him the way a grown daughter should know her father.”
— Melissa Beatty Chitwood
“I appreciate all the work you have done on this website and I share it with others all over the country. I hope you can continue to add more and more to the Cliffside memories for future generations to share and know about what life was like in the good old days in Cliffside, NC.”
— Richard Champion
“My cousin, George Norville of Shelby, brought your site to my attention. I will be forever grateful to him. Since George told me of the site, my community service, chores around the house and what’s left of my love life have fallen into a state of limbo while I surfed the Remember Cliffside site. I can’t express how much I have enjoyed the opportunity to do a cyber visit with old friends, or at least their pictures and my memories.
“When George told me to seek your site, I immediately had visions of descriptions of the old 'mill town,' a few pictures and not much else. Was I wrong, or what? When I looked at your site map, I couldn’t believe the amount of history, visual records and nostalgia presented. You’ve done an outstanding job in putting this site on-line. I take off my hat to you, sir!”
— Jerry Norville
“Thank you. Without your web site the attached photo, and a very enjoyable
day, would not have been possible.
“On Thursday, a group of us got together in New Hope, Pennsylvania, to resurrect the Cliffside Railroad for a day. No. 40 looked just as she did in the 1940s and 1950s, and put on a fine show. The photo galleries on your web site
were a big help in getting the lettering and striping right.
“You can see more photos of the day here:
http://forums.railfan.net/forums.cgi?board=NHI;action=display;num=1098444170
“As I get my film processed and scanned I'll send a few more photos for
you, and more information about the event. Hopefully it will interest your
'bunch.'
“Thanks again for remembercliffside.com.”— John Craft
What's going on here? Back in 1962 Cliffside stopped using steam engines and sold engine #40 to the New Hope and Ivyland Railroad in New Hope, Penn. Here's a photo of it shortly after the sale, bearing the new owner's name and colors. A railroad enthusiasts group recently redecorated the engine and tender as it looked in Cliffside. We'll add more information and photos as they become available.
“This is regarding the Big Parade, Photo of the Month, September 2003.
“I am Blanton McBrayer's daughter-in-law. I am not sure if you are aware that Blanton passed away August 12, 2004, at the McBrayer Furniture Store. Our family has lost its center and the town of Forest City and its citizens have lost a great friend, storyteller and historian.
“I was not aware of your web site, but for some reason I was compelled to Google the name 'Blanton McBrayer' this morning.
“When I saw the words 'Big Parade' and 'Blanton wrote to me,' I knew it was him and the picture that was found at my daughter Keely's house on Arlington Street in Forest City.
“Blanton was thrilled when the picture was brought to him and he thought right away it was Cliffside, where his father R. B. was born.
“He could not wait to get it to the McBrayer Furniture Store, where he could show the picture off and find out more about it.
“Blanton was a meticulous person, therefore on his behalf, I hope you will make the following corrections. I think this was 'lost in translation' from the letter, as I am positive that Blanton did not put it this way.
“His granddaughter is Keely, not Kelly. His son is called Macky, not Mac. His grandfather's name was spelled Reuben, not Rubin and Blanton and Eddie's kids are not running the furniture store. At the time of his death, he and Eddie were the co-owners of the store and Eddie opened the store back up on Monday morning , I am sure with heavy heart, but to an endless parade of people stopping by the store to reminisce about their friend, Blanton McBrayer.
“An interesting note about the picture and where it was found. The house where the picture was found, was built in 1930, by James Willis Griffin and wife Alice Grace, who purchased the Romina Theater from Walter Haynes of Cliffside. (I learned about the Romina on your website) They later gave the house to James W. Griffin Jr., as a wedding gift, I am told, when the elder Griffin moved to Main Street, Forest City.”
— Jane McBrayer
Editor's note: We wish we could have met Mr. McBrayer, and we've made the corrections to the Big Parade story on the Photo of the Month page.
“The Goat Man's name was Charlie McCartney from Jeffersonville, Georgia. He had a compound, a lot of little buildings in about a one-acre area, near my grandparents home, Frances Sims (Mrs. Sam) Dedmond's parents. Mother and daddy knew him and daddy has taken him and his son home so his son could go to school. His son went on some of the trips with him and when it got close to school time, he asked Sam to take him home. I remember the Goat Man setting up [in Cliffside] in the field across from Bob Dedmonds house one summer. Mother also remembers him taking his goats on trips while she was in school.
“In his later years he was in a nursing home in Macon, Georgia, and married a lady there. He has since died and I am not sure of the date. His son is still alive and I saw his walking the road in Jeffersonville about 3 or 4 years ago when we went back to mothers home. The buildings of his compound are still there.
“Does anyone have any pictures of the Ice and Coal plant in Cliffside?”
— Judy Mason
"I just wanted to tell you how much I enjoy the site, and that I think you have done a fantastic job of putting it together. In fact, I think it would make a great guide for other small towns and communities to fashion their own websites. You should be teaching website development!
"I was born in Cliffside in 1938 and left before I started school. My parents were Ferrell and Esther Allison Atkinson and my sister is Joyce Atkinson Hunter. We lived with my Grandmother Gennie Allison when my father left the mill to work as a government inspector for fabrics being produced for the military during WWII. After we moved to Spartanburg, we visited my
Aunt Nell and Uncle Roy Hill, and Aunt Beulah and Uncle Lafar Ruppe often while growing up.
"Keep up the good work!"— Mack Atkinson
“I remember going down to the old boiler room and fishing out the window. On Sundays we would have 'tournaments.' About every fixer, maintenance man, a/c...well, we don't want to incriminate anyone...ha ha..but there would be several of us up and down the stairs to take turns with the only 3 ft. rod available....one pinch of a nightcrawler and we was fishing...mostly bream. One time a fellow hooked a carp out the window...it was about 30 ft. down, so landing it was impossible. Ruined the only good hook we had with us that day! Your caption on what might have been fabricated in the welder room set me to chuckling...lead was melted in an old homemade ladle and poured into a mold to make fishing sinkers. Oh boy!”
— Mike Hanson
“The website you have produced is a really great job. So much of our personal heritage today has been gobbled up by time and progress. It would be great if more folks like you and the other contributors would take the initiative and do something like this for the areas they grew up a part of. Many folks today take for granted what they have and do not put in perspective how they got to this point in life. Your site does this in a very real way for those who call Cliffside home.
“I live in Lexington, NC today, as I have for all but five years of my life. I have seen it change over the years. My church was established in a mill village as were many across the southern USA. Today just about every mill house has been torn down and non-distinctive commercial buildings have replaced them. Thank you for the memories and history you keep alive today.
“I have a small relationship back to Cliffside and spent some brief periods there during my youth (1960's). My Grandparents lived in Forest City where my Granddad (Will Greene) owned Greene Memorial Company. He had a relationship with Mr. McKinney and Mr. Landreth at the funeral home in Cliffside. Both my Grandparent's grew up in the nearby Six Points area between Mooresboro and Cliffside. I have seen a few names on your site where some of my Aunt's (Dit Wilkie), and Uncle's (James or Jim Wilkie) are mentioned. Also from the 1910 census of Cliffside, my Great-Great Grandparents, O.J. and Jane Wilkie are listed. So I appreciate the site from my own family history
perspective.“As I mentioned, I live in Lexington, NC and you have talked about Mr. H. Lee Waters taking photographs and filming the movie of Cliffside folks. Mr. Waters used to ride his small motor scooter around town when I was young, offering rides to young folks around the block. His work will be much valued in the years to come from many people all around NC and SC and other places where he worked. Mr Waters passed away just a few years ago at the age of 95. Many of his old photographs have been given to the Davidson County Historical museum and also,I believe, to Duke University.
“Anyway, I just wanted to pass along to you my thanks and appreciation for this worthy project of yours and also to all of your contributors.”—Donald Greene
“My Mum (who is visiting from England) and I have been trying to do some research on family members of ours who emigrated to the USA in the 19th century.
"She had two great uncles, Prof. Dock Warburton (who was the first instructor of the town brass band) and George Warburton who came to reside in North Carolina.
“We are very excited to find your information on the band he was involved with and even more excited to see the photograph.”— Julie Regan Couvillon
and Ann Regan
“Just discovered 'Cliffside.' Wonderful undertaking and well crafted presentation. I linked to it in a language-related post on my weblog this morning.”
— Fred First
“I have no connnection to Cliffside. I read an article in the Charlotte Observer a long time ago, and went to your website. I was very impressed at the way you brought the town to life for someone that had never been there... I am a transplant, and live in Charlotte, but I think that you are doing a great service. This is such an important part of American history, and to have it documented so well is worth bragging rights.”
— Eric Diedrick
“I cannot thank you enough for the tremendous job you are doing with the Cliffside web site! It is like walking down the sidewalk in Cliffside. I grew up there in the 50's-60's...Ruby and Shaw Biggerstaff were my parents, both deceased. Dad worked on the railroad and Mother taught school at Cliffside Elementary. We lived at 41 N. Main for many years.”
—Alice Loper
“That's the best Web site I've ever seen.”
—Joe Depriest
“I hope you know how much we appreciate all the work you have done on this thing. It is absolutely the best web site I have ever visited and I spend a lot of time researching family and other genealogy sites and none compare to yours. Movability means a lot on a web site some are so slow and awkward to get around, yours is great in this respect. You must have done a lot of planning and put a lot of thought into it before you started and it shows.”
—James Haynes
“I suggested to one of my cousins that he should check your web-site a couple of weeks ago. He did and I quote 'I have been on that dad-blasted web-site for 2 hours—and it is great!' Your site is a real inspiration to some of us old Cliffside folks.”
—Robert Winn
“Let me say your website is great. ...I think you put some good time and did a good profile on the community. ... I can't imagine how many hours you have put in time to prepare that. Again, great job.”
—Tim Turner
“I really appreciate all the work you have done on this site, it is first class. I was born in Cliffside and lived there until my father returned from WW II, His name is listed on the memorial at the clock, Charlie Powell. I love the pictures, it is a wonderful trip down memory lane. Please keep up the good work.”
—Ron Powell
“I wanted to let you know that you have created a wonderful website. I have been able to find out many interesting stories, pictures, and history about my husbands' family. You may even know some of their families - the Powell family, Hollis & Odessa Scruggs, the Hames family, the Moore Family.... Through your site I have been able to find contacts who were able to give me even more information. Thanks for all the hard work that you've done.”
—Randi Powell
“I wanted to thank you for your hard work and dedication to such a wonderful subject for so many to talk about...and to see my Momma brighten up in talking about her hometown!”
—Jackie West Greene
“I'm immensely impressed with your web site. You have done yourself and Cliffside proud! I'll certainly keep checking in on your hometown.”
—Martha Mason
“Thank you for the beautiful Cliffside website and all of the pictures on it. My father, Colen Adair... passed away this past July [2002], but he thoroughly enjoyed the Remember Cliffside website and was able to show me one of his 'old' girlfriends in one of the pictures, Uncle Clang and Wormie Hawkins in others. Looking at the picture of the month...I am thinking how much my dad would have loved that picture. I know he could have told me who used to live in many of those houses too! I really appreciate your work on this website.”
—Mary Adair Baker
“Once again, I must tell you how much the site means to me. You are doing a good deed in perpetuating the memory of Cliffside. What you are doing is not frivolous work, it's important; not only to current viewers, but very important to future generations. Your work will be acclaimed, acknowledged and appreciated by many.”
—Ken West
“First thing I do every morning is read 'Remember Cliffside.' Thanks for all your hard work...I know your wife does lots of this work too, so we do appreciate her.”
—Nellie Jo Scruggs Hamrick
“Thanks for the Web Page on our old home town, brings back a lot of memories, especially drawing the pond...[It] looks like you put in a lot of work on this, congratulations and thank you.”
—Gene Ingram
“What a wonderful job you have done preserving Cliffside's history. Cooleemee is another former mill town working hard to preserve its heritage and pass on its traditions to next generation. We had a conference in 1996 that drew together reps from 28 mill towns and villages from the Carolinas along with some scholars who are writing on this 'subject.' We feel that if the cotton mill folks don't work hard now to interpret this history from our point of view, others who know too little will write our story for us and we won't have room to complain. Again, Congratulations ”
— Lynn W. Rumley
Textile Heritage Center at Cooleemee“I love this website. You've certainly done a great job. Looking back through all the memories is fantastic. I've only been back to Cliffside a few times over the years since my folks moved to California in 1958.”
—Dave Cobb
“Can't tell you how much I appreciate all that you have done, and are doing, to Remember Cliffside. This set of 54 photos brings back memories of when I, and my friends, walked there in the 30's... I have a hard time seeing all these pictures through my teary eyes, THANKS AGAIN.”
—Grover Haynes, Jr.
“I just looked at the new pages on the site. As usual, you make me proud. When I tell people about the site, and I do that often, I always tell them that this is a site with great content and great integrity. We owe you much for sharing your time and treasures.
“I have an idea. Why don't we buy Cliffside! We would make it into a retirement town and bring back all the things that we hold dear. You could be the Mayor! I will want a small lot with a big house. I am not fond of yardwork.”—Joyce Atkinson Hunter
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